שתן, האם מדובר על משקה עשיר בנפלאות..?

[SiX PACK]

הנה מקור מוסמך (וקיפדיה) ששופך קצת אור וידע ראשוני, אך לא קובע עובדות חד משמעויות -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy

יש המכנים את זה "טרפיה בשתן" באנגלית " "Urine Therapy" ואומרים ששתיית שתן עצמי זה טוב, מרפה ומונע מחלות ומחזק את הגוף.

[SiX PACK]

הנה קצת חומר מפרוייקט שנעשה בעניין -

Healing Yourself using Urine

Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.), namesake of the Hippocratic oath, was the first in the Western world to record and teach the practice of uropoty (the drinking of urine). The theory of urine therapy states: In the excreted urine all the body's experiences -- physical and psychological -- are collected. Reintroducing the urine to the body forces the body's immune system to confront the same experiences a second time, which gives it a second incentive to deal with the problem.
Urine functions as a nosode, a small impulse of disease that, when introduced to the body, triggers the healing powers of the immune system. From homeopathy the principle of "healing like with like" is well-known. Today's vaccinations work on the same principle: A small impulse of an illness is introduced to the body to trigger its massive defense mechanism. In the case of immunizations one can obtain protection lasting for decades; when using urine therapy a refreshment is recommended after one year, or sometimes after just half a year.

The Death of Prejudice

Fear about urine is conditioned and irrational. The following prejudices must be overcome:
1. Urine is full of germs.
In the first fifteen minutes after leaving the body, urine is absolutely sterile for the producer's own body. Only after this period do the germs begin their work. However, they are not dangerous at all, and can even be beneficial for external applications.
2. Urine smells.
After a while the uric acid in urine changes into ammonia, and only then does the urine start to smell. However, the smell will evaporate completely if the urine gets absorbed into the skin, or if, for example, it is used in the household on window glass and is thoroughly wiped off afterward.
3. Urine is a waste product.
How can it make sense to reintroduce into the body a fluid that it just has expended considerable effort to eliminate? A short and simple explanation: Urine comprises the sum of all the experiences that the body has had (much as our individual personalities comprise the sum of our experience). Records of disturbances, infections, diseases, and allergies are stored within our urine. If we confront our immune system with this information for a second time, we stimulate the construction of a (finally) effective defense. Urine therefore teaches the immune system a lesson.
4. Urine develops an unpleasant odor on the skin.
This is not true. It is, however, necessary for the fluid to be completely absorbed. If, for example, you make compresses, I recommend an animal fiber like wool rather than cotton, since the urine will not develop an odor in animal fibers while it will smell in cotton (as we know from cotton diapers). Urine should certainly not be used with synthetic fibers.
5. Urine contains viruses and bacteria.
Our own urine doesn't contain any viruses or bacteria that really could harm us because those have already been filtered out by the liver. And the remaining ones are exactly the ones that the body should fight with the help of urine therapy.
6. Urine tastes bad.
Healthy urine, especially the first evacuation in the morning, always tastes salty and bitter. This taste, however, will not be conducted through the capillaries of the tongue, but solely through the nose. If you pinch your nose while drinking, you will not taste anything.
7. Urine is responsible for diaper rash.
This is absolute nonsense, on which the diaper industry gets rich. Urine does not harm a baby's buttocks. A sore bottom is caused solely by the infant's diet or by the diet of the nursing mother.

THE DRINKING OF YOUR OWN URINE

"Me? Drink Urine? Never!" Many patients have exclaimed these words when their therapist has suggested this form of treatment. However, the fact remains, everybody has done it before, namely in the mother's womb. The embryo has its own metabolism from the very beginning, which is connected to the mother's circulatory system. The baby gets rid of its urine just as any other human does. Therefore it also swallows its own urine constantly through the amniotic fluid. The history of humankind proves that it has not harmed anybody so far. Also, medicine has known for three thousand years that urine can be very beneficial to the small being. The Ebers Papyrus -- an Egyptian book on medicine written about 1000 B.C., with a total of fifty-five recipes for urine therapy -- proves this fact.

STILL SKEPTICAL? Do the test!

Now it's time to take a risk and start. Forget all the thoughts that you have connected with urine since the beginning of your life. The next time you have to go to the bathroom, hold your index finger in the stream of urine. Let the liquid drip off a little and smell it. Don't be afraid: I promise you, you won't smell a thing!
Now, can you gather up even a little more courage? Then rub some of the urine on the back of your hand and wait as long as you can before you wash your hands again. You will discover that no odor will develop on your skin either. The moistened area, however, will feel softer and smoother.
Are you even more courageous? Then touch your urine-covered finger with your tongue -- just very quickly. Does it taste salty? That's normal. The morning urine is especially bitter. The more fluid you take in during the day, the more "mild" the taste of urine.

FOR THE REAL SKEPTICS

The most important prerequisite for urine therapy is this: The only people eligible for the internal use of the self-urine therapy are the ones whose bladder, kidneys, and genitals are absolutely healthy. In case of a bladder infection, a sexually transmitted disease, or the intake of certain medications (cortisone, strong pain relievers, psychopharmaceuticals, antibiotics, insulin), urine should only be used externally. Talk with your physician to see if such medications could be reduced or discontinued in favor of urine therapy.

[SiX PACK]

THE FIRST STEP

Do you have by any chance a small injury anywhere on your body, a rash, a blister, or something similar? While urinating, rub some fresh urine on it several times a day. Within a short time this spot will heal. Maybe this experience will help you gain some trust in your own juice.

THE SECOND STEP

Now that you have gotten over your initial disgust, can you expect even more from yourself?
Take a very clean glass. In the morning, right after getting up, try to urinate in three steps. That may sound somewhat silly, but it is meant quite seriously. The first urine to pass through the urethra cleans the passageway thoroughly. You should not collect these expelled substances. Pause briefly, position the glass, and let the urine pour in. When the glass is full, pause again. Set the glass aside and empty your bladder completely. This remaining urine does not contain many useful substances, and therefore you needn't collect it. It only would increase the amount of fluid you drink. What you have collected is the so-called morning midstream urine. This is the purest and richest urine of the day.

THE THIRD STEP

All right then. The urine is collected and you have fifteen minutes remaining to do something with it. Therefore, there is no need to rush. Why don't you get your favorite drink from the kitchen? No alcohol in the morning, of course, but if you expect the worst scenario (to vomit), maybe a very small and strongly spiced stomach bitter would not be inappropriate (no more than a thimbleful).
You should not push yourself now. Although you have a whole glass in front of you, a single sip that you don't spit out immediately is worth more than the entire glass that will soon end up in the toilet. Put down the glass and immediately swallow your favorite drink. Then, take a deep breath. You've done it! There, was that so terrible? I don't think so.

THE FOURTH STEP

It is obvious: You have to work on increasing your daily dose until you are able to empty the whole glass. But please, don't "sweeten" your urine with a small sip of alcohol every morning. Otherwise, you are in danger of developing secondary damages, sooner or later, like dependency.

IF YOU FAIL THE FIRST TIME

You succeeded with collecting the midstream urine, but could not go on afterward. It would be good if you could make yourself do at least the finger test, to show yourself again that urine is not disgusting. Afterward, pour the contents of the glass into the toilet. You can simply make a new attempt the next morning, and don't call yourself a "coward". Rather, be proud of how many inhibitions you have overcome already.

MAKE IT A HABIT

When you reach the point where you drink your urine every morning, you are faced with an alternative:
You can do a two-week to three-month treatment course to treat a certain illness, determined by a holistic physician or by a naturopath. Or you can fight allergies or a similar chronic ailment with a continuous urine therapy (daily). In this way you provide your immune system with permanent support and achieve a lasting improvement in your general well being. If you are afraid that those around you cannot understand why you drink urine, it is better to be silent about it for now. If, however, your present complaints improve or even disappear during the treatment -- and I am convinced they will -- you would do our common cause a favor by talking about it. Relating your personal experiences by word of mouth would be more convincing than any book.

אני מבקש להתייחס ברצינות לנושא או לא להגיב בגלל, תגובות לא ענייניות/רציניות ימחקו ולגולש תשקל השעייה.

לילה טוב.

[אורי סטמקר]

טוב אז נתחיל בזה שאתה לא לבד שיודע ששתיית שתן טובה חחח...
יש לי קרוב מישפחה שעלה לארץ לפני כמה שנים טובות שמעתי ממנו על שתיית שתן בפעם הראשונה.
בהתחלה צחקתי אליו אבל מיסתבר שהבנאדם רציני היה מיתאמן בחדר כושר וכל בוקר שהיה קם היה שותה קודם כל את השתן שלו.הסביר לי שזה מחזק את הגוף בפני מחלות וחיזוק מערכת החיסונית.
אז חברך היקר היחליט שבוקר אחד אני קם ושותה שתן מממ.. תאמת שזה לא כל כך גרוע !סביל אבל זה היה פעם אחת ,משהו בראש לא מיסתדר עים שתיית שתן של עצמך.

[Locke]

איכס...

[Eyeseen]

נניח ועכשיו תהיה בטוח שזה בריא, אתה תשתה את זה ?

[SiX PACK]

פורסם במקור על ידי eyeseen

נניח ועכשיו תהיה בטוח שזה בריא, אתה תשתה את זה ?

אני מעוניין לדעת מה האפקט של זה, לא מתכוון לשתות את זה בשום פנים ואופן..
זה פשוט סיכרן אותי, מכיון לא רק שהשתן מכיל אנזימים ומינרלים, אלה גם הורמונים.



נשמע הזוי.. וגם מגעיל ביותר כשחושבים על זה..

[SiX PACK]

הנה מדריך -

http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html

[SiX PACK]

עכשיו ראיתי את זה, נדלקו לי העיניים שקראתי את המילה טסטוסטרון... זה בעיקרון צד מדעי של העניין -

Dr B.V. Khare, an allopathic doctor and Mumbai-based follower of AUT, says: "The Italian surgeon Stanislau R. Burzynski, now settled in America, separated anti-neoplastin from human urine and showed remarkable results in the treatment of cancer. Another substance found in large quantities in the urine is called dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). It is a hormone related to testosterone. This, as research showed, has anti-cancer, anti-obesity and anti-aging properties. It has also been found that urea when recycled by ingesting, is converted into essential amino acids."

Medical researchers have discovered that many of the elements of the blood that are found in urine have enormous medicinal value, and when reintroduced into the body, boost the body's immune system and stimulate healing in a unique way. The therapy can be applied in many ways. The most common is to consume your morning urine (not the first few drops) completely and without dilution. Gargling, massage and sniffing have also been found to be useful.

When asked whether it should be practised only during an ailment, Dr Khare replied: "Why do you want to stop at all? I am not suffering from any disease, yet I take three glasses of my own urine every day and massage my body with urine every morning and take bath after one hour. Just like brushing your teeth or going to the toilet every morning, this has to be incorporated in our daily routine. I know a family of four who have not gone to a physician for any ailment for more than a year after being initiated into AUT."

כתוב שזה הורמון הקשור לטסטוסטרון, אינני יודע אם יש לו השלחות אנבוליות.
כתוב שם שזה גם נמצא בכמויות גדולות.....

ותאמינו או לא, בויקפדיה כתוב שההורמון הזה הוא נגד החוק
DHEA is a prohibited substance under the World Anti-Doping Code of the international cycling body, Union Cycliste Internationale[35].

[SiX PACK]

עוד קצת חומר על ההורמון הזה שנמצא בתוך השתן, אל תגידו שזה לא מעניין.. אם אין לכם כוח אז לפחות תקראו את המודגש, מחקר שנעשה ב- 2006.

Studies have shown that DHEA is useful in patients with systemic lupus erythematosus. An application of the evidence was discussed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 2001 and is available online.[4] This review also shows that cholesterol and other serum lipids decrease with the use of DHEA (mainly a decrease in HDL-C and triglycerides can be expected in women, p110).
DHEA supplementation has been studied as a treatment for Alzheimer's disease, but was found to be ineffective.[5] Some small placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial studies have found long-term supplementation to improve mood and relieve depression[6][7] or to decrease insulin resistance.[8] However, a larger placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial reported in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2006 found that DHEA supplementation in elderly men and women had no beneficial effects on body composition, physical performance, insulin sensitivity, or quality of life.[9]
In contrast to the non-beneficial effects of DHEA on memory in the elderly, a randomised UK study[10] found that a 7-day course of DHEA (150 mg twice daily) improved episodic memory in healthy young men. In this study, DHEA was also shown to improve subjective mood and decrease evening cortisol concentration, which is known to be elevated in depression[11]. The effect of DHEA on memory appeared to be related to an early activation of the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) and it was suggested this was due to neuronal recruitment of the steroid sensitive ACC that may be involved in pre-hippocampal memory processing.
DHEA supplements are sometimes used as muscle-building or performance-enhancing drugs by athletes. However, a randomized placebo-controlled trial found that DHEA supplementation had no effect on lean body mass, strength, or testosterone levels.[12]
A 1986 study found that a higher level of endogenous DHEA, as determined by a single measurement, correlated with a lower risk of death or cardiovascular disease.[13] However, a more recent 2006 study found no correlation between DHEA levels and risk of cardiovascular disease or death in men.[14] A 2007 study found the DHEA restored oxidative balance in diabetic patients, reducing tue levels of pentosidine—a biomarker for advanced glycation endproducts.[15]
Some in vitro studies have found DHEA to have an anti-proliferative or apoptotic effect on cancer cell lines.[16][17][18] The clinical significance of these findings, if any, is unknown. Higher levels of DHEA, in fact, have been correlated with an increased risk of developing breast cancer in both pre- and postmenopausal women.[19][20]
An anonymous 2002 review, in the French journal Prescrire, concluded: DHEA plasma levels are so low in most animals that they are difficult to measure, hindering studies on DHEA and aging. DHEA had not yet, at the time of writing, been linked to any specific health disorder. Side effects are linked to its androgenic effects, unfavorable lipid metabolism effects, and "possible growth-stimulating effect" on hormone dependent malignancies. "In practice, there is currently no scientific reason to prescribe DHEA for any purpose whatsoever."[21]
A 2005 study, measured serum DHEA in 206 men with type-2 diabetes, and found an inverse relationship between serum DHEA and carotid atherosclerosis in men. The authors say the study "supports the notion that DHEA, which is sold in increasing amount as a food supplement, is atheroprotective in humans, and that androgen replacement therapy should be considered for men with hypogonadism."[22]
A 2006 study supplemented DHEA to men of average 65 years of age, and found that the men experienced significant increases in testosterone and cGMP (Cyclic guanosine monophosphate), and significant decreases in low-density liprotein (LDL). The authors say that the "findings...suggest that chronic DHEA supplementation would exert antiatherogenic effects, particularly in elderly subjects who display low circulating levels of this hormone."[23]
A 2008 study in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, June 2008, measured serum DHEA in 940 men and women ranging from age 21 to 88, following them from 1978 until 2005. The researches found that low levels of DHEA-s showed a significant association with shorter lifespan and that higher DHEA-s levels are a "strong predictor" of longevity in men, even after adjusting for age, blood pressure, and plasma glucose. No relationship was found between serum DHEA and longevity for women during the study period. The study did not find a significant difference in longevity until the 15-year follow-up point, which the researchers note may explain why some past research that followed men for less duration found no relationship.[24]

[edit] Disputed effects

[DanielML]

שתן זה פסולת מטבולית,לא הייתי שותה את מזה שהגוף פינה

[Krisg]

מי כתב את המאמר הזה צופית גרנט?

[m0she]

Dhea הוא חומר מוכר וידוע שלא עושה שום דבר כשמתספים בו. אתה יכול לקנות אותו בלי בעיה בגרמניה אני מאמין. אין שום הגיון בשתיה של שתן וכמו שכתוב בויקיפדיה אין לזה שום בסיס מדעי. אין שם בדיוק הורמונים, יותר תוצרי הפירוק שלהם (שהם נטולי פעילות), מים ואלקטרוליטים בכמויות משתנות (בתלות בכמה שאתה שותה) ועוד חומרים שהגוף שלך פשוט יצטרך לפנות שוב. שתה מים.

[Pro_XXL_Universe]

נסיתי למצוא על זה משהו בYOUTUBE דווקא היה מענין לראות לזה סיקור בדיסקברי או NG או משהו.נו טוב במקום זה מצא לי את הפקיסטנים המחורבנים האלו שמחים כי הדאבה הזה שתה את הפיפי שלו :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pctehJesqBM

[Big-T]

אבל בכללי שתן מוציא פסולת מהגוף, עם נישתה את זה זה לא יחזיר תפסולת?

[barakav]

יש כאן קוראים שאני מאמין שעוד יכולים לנסות את זה...

[Daniel2]

אין לזה שום ביסוס,כמו כן שהdhea שאתה כ"כ מתלהב ממנו לא אפקטיבי ובמקרה שלך,שרמת הטסטוסטרון גבוהה מימלא,יש לו נטייה להיפך לאסטרוגן.

[radio111]

אתה צודק בקשר לשתיית השתן , ראיתי בטלוזיה השורד האולטימטיבי (אחת הסדרות החזקות, למרות שזה בנשיונל), הוא שתה את הפיפי שלו כשלא היה לו מה לשתות והוא אמר למרות שזה פסולת יש בזה נוזלים טובים ולהשתין את זה על הרצפה יהיה סתם בזבוז.

[OrGadol]

פורסם במקור על ידי krisg

מי כתב את המאמר הזה צופית גרנט?

פשש איזה שווה זאת!@תמיד הייתי חרמן עליה שראיתי אותה בטלויזיה אולי יבוא יום ואני ידפוק אותה!

[TheDrag0n]

פורסם במקור על ידי OrGadol

פשש איזה שווה זאת!@תמיד הייתי חרמן עליה שראיתי אותה בטלויזיה אולי יבוא יום ואני ידפוק אותה!